http://adamsouza.tripod.com/alchemy.html

Dave as expressed a desire for the party to use more expendable and/or alchemical items. I found this list, and was really taken with a lot of the ideas of items. I'd like the group to take a look at this list and decide if there is a way to incorporate this list either as is, or with revisions if something is out of whack. Let me know what you guys think

-Z

Edit: Yes I know a lot of these are from Dragon Magazine, this is why I seek clarification, approval, disapproval or discussion about things. I'd like to see some of the dragon things incorporated 'cuz they're effing cool (even if it means adjusting the price up or down to make it reasonable if necessary)

In general these all seem ok.  There are a few that I'd rework (like Armor Soft), but I'm ok with the concepts in this list.  In general, alchemical items should fit w/in the bounds of reason that are accepted by the current rules.  For new stuff, we'll take it on a case by case basis.  Also, some items may reuire black market checks.  For items that cost 100gp or more, a PC has to learn the recipe in order to make the item.

Of course. Availability in any given campaign is always subject to DM rulings. I totally agree that there are a few things that should be reworked and/or revised a bit just in order to tweak, but the thing that really struk me was the fact that there are three or four things that provide fire resistance and/or neutralize fire... which pretty much solves our "ohey plate... lets throw alchemists fire at them" issue we had. 'cuz then it becomes "ohey *throws greek fire"  Plate wearer: "Ohey... *neutralizes*" 


on that note... i just got another idea i'll go post in the alchemists fire thread. :3

but yeah, i just wanted to get a general idea of what you guys' thoguhts are  

-Z

some items seem to be self use...but could be weaponized....like armorsoft.    lulz i sunder ur plate...

I would argue that something like armorsoft would indeed damage plate, but if it is used in combat, then it is hardly going to get the intended coverage and even coating that applying it to ones own armor would give... I'd probably suggest something like a 2-3% cumulative fail rate on mundane armors and call magical armors immune to it. (but that's just my opinion) thoughts?

-Z

WEAPONIZE POWDERED WATER!!!

So before this thread dies: What items do people have a problem with (any aspect: effect, cost, DC, etc)

and what do you propose the change is to "fix" it? Thanks

-Z

Zal - Let's do coffee with a printed out list and make changes that way...Too hard to alt-tab think and to do it solo.  Friendwork is so much better

Sounds good to me. Let me know when you're free and I'll get a printout.

-Z

Friday? Can we please do that Friday... I have that day off work >_<

I'm good for friday.

Wait...Ontrix is coming?  I quit.

Just Kidding.  Let me check my schedule at home tonight

Oohh me 2 me 2!. o wait, i work

Ontrix is coming? JEEZ I'm not even breathing heavy yet! 

Har har har....


I got a call back from the Public Storage job, and I should be hearing back tonight or tomorrow about an interview either tomorrow or thursday. If i get the job, my schedule may be clouding up a bit, but as of right now, i should be free all friday. 

-Z

PS. if you're not available friday, figure out a time that you ARE free so we can meet and then work on stuff, then come up with a time that we can all discuss any discrepencies or disagreements between the people who are unable to meet. 

Any time saturday after 12.

Friday: I work at 5:30-9:30